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Cunningham Gets Glazkov in Championship Eliminator
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That SOB Van Owen
2014-12-03 00:44:58 UTC
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No official news source that I know has it yet, but boxing journalist
Dan Rafael states Philadelphia's former cruiserweight champion Steve
Cunningham with several fights now at heavyweight, will face young,
undefeated, and highly-ranked Ukrainian Czar Glazgov. Rafael goes on
to say that it will be a eliminator match, with the winner declared
mandatory challenger for one of Wladimir Klitschko's titles.

History has shown that Klitschko likes to hold on to all of his
titles, so while nothing is certain, including that Klitschko doesn't
lose before Cunningham or Glazlov gets to him for whichever belt it
is, this is a great opportunity for them.

It's supposed to be the undercard for Kovalev-Pascal in March, so a
lot of waiting yet.

With an overhand right, Cunningham floored UK giant Tyson Fury about
18 months ago, before Fury mounted a fierce comeback in that match, to
win by way of a left-forearm-blinding maneuver followed by clubbing
right, an act which seemed to belong more to the bare-knuckle brawlers
of Fury's gypsy heritage than the sport of boxing.

So, if anyone besides me is tracking these eventualities: Fury is
currently mandatory for Klitschko's WBO belt. But Klitschko, who just
clobbered Kubrat Pulev, has some other fight to win before he must
face Fury. If Cunningham manages to defeat Glazgov, he is mandatory
for one of Klitschko's other belts, but Fury gets Klitschko first.

In closing, the most likely outcome is that Wladimir Klitschko keeps
beating the heck out of everybody put in front of him. However the one
I'd like to see is Fury defeats Klitschko and then must rematch
Cunningham at the end of 2015 for the heavyweight championship of the
world.

That SOB Van Owen
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2014-12-02 23:56:49 UTC
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Post by That SOB Van Owen
No official news source that I know has it yet, but boxing journalist
Dan Rafael states Philadelphia's former cruiserweight champion Steve
Cunningham with several fights now at heavyweight, will face young,
undefeated, and highly-ranked Ukrainian Czar Glazgov. Rafael goes on
to say that it will be a eliminator match, with the winner declared
mandatory challenger for one of Wladimir Klitschko's titles.
History has shown that Klitschko likes to hold on to all of his
titles, so while nothing is certain, including that Klitschko doesn't
lose before Cunningham or Glazkov gets to him for whichever belt it
is, this is a great opportunity for them.
It's supposed to be the undercard for Kovalev-Pascal in March, so a
lot of waiting yet.
With an overhand right, Cunningham floored UK giant Tyson Fury about
18 months ago, before Fury mounted a fierce comeback in that match, to
win by way of a left-forearm-blinding maneuver followed by clubbing
right, an act which seemed to belong more to the bare-knuckle brawlers
of Fury's gypsy heritage than the sport of boxing.
So, if anyone besides me is tracking these eventualities: Fury is
currently mandatory for Klitschko's WBO belt. But Klitschko, who just
clobbered Kubrat Pulev, has some other fight to win before he must
face Fury. If Cunningham manages to defeat Glazgov, he is mandatory
for one of Klitschko's other belts, but Fury gets Klitschko first.
In closing, the most likely outcome is that Wladimir Klitschko keeps
beating the heck out of everybody put in front of him. However the one
I'd like to see is Fury defeats Klitschko and then must rematch
Cunningham at the end of 2015 for the heavyweight championship of the
world.
That SOB Van Owen
Wlad Klitschko has that unfailing jackhammer jab that will determine the outcome for any opponent who is willing to sacrifice himself for a few bucks, Fury included.

DCI
That SOB Van Owen
2014-12-03 01:13:39 UTC
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Wlad Klitschko has that unfailing jackhammer jab that will
determine the outcome for any opponent who is willing to
sacrifice himself for a few bucks, Fury included.
DCI
I already said Klitschko wins all around are the likeliest outcome,
however Fury's domination of Dereck Chisora over the weekend has
forced some of his critics to acknowledge that he is able to accept
instruction and box to a plan.

My connection right now is poor and I haven't watched it, but I've
read several accounts that after round 1 Fury fought southpaw and
demolished Chisora for nine rounds with the right jab before Chisora's
corner threw in the towel to avoid unnecessary danger to its fighter,
who had no answer for Fury.

So: Fury also has a jackhammer jab, and it happens to be I think 3 or
4 inches longer than Klitschko's. Neither will Klitschko be able to
exercise his patented "lean on him" maneuver on 6'9" Fury. So, far be
it from me to say Fury can handle Klitschko, but I also think calling
that hypothetical match is going to require looking anew at each of
them after their next outings.

That SOB Van Owen
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2014-12-03 02:23:12 UTC
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Wlad Klitschko has that unfailing jackhammer jab that will
determine the outcome for any opponent who is willing to
sacrifice himself for a few bucks, Fury included.
DCI
I already said Klitschko wins all around are the likeliest outcome,
however Fury's domination of Dereck Chisora over the weekend has
forced some of his critics to acknowledge that he is able to accept
instruction and box to a plan.
My connection right now is poor and I haven't watched it, but I've
read several accounts that after round 1 Fury fought southpaw and
demolished Chisora for nine rounds with the right jab before Chisora's
corner threw in the towel to avoid unnecessary danger to its fighter,
who had no answer for Fury.
So: Fury also has a jackhammer jab, and it happens to be I think 3 or
4 inches longer than Klitschko's. Neither will Klitschko be able to
exercise his patented "lean on him" maneuver on 6'9" Fury. So, far be
it from me to say Fury can handle Klitschko, but I also think calling
that hypothetical match is going to require looking anew at each of
them after their next outings.
That SOB Van Owen
I understand your points. Yet, Klitschko wins.

DCI
Juan Anonly
2014-12-03 16:51:27 UTC
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Post by That SOB Van Owen
So: Fury also has a jackhammer jab, and it happens to be I think 3 or
4 inches longer than Klitschko's.
Having a longer reach doesn't mean you're capable of using it,
particularly with finesse, against a long-time pro who has demonstrated
his use of reach, with finesse, for many years.
Post by That SOB Van Owen
Neither will Klitschko be able to
exercise his patented "lean on him" maneuver on 6'9" Fury.
As you likely well know, height is not the major contributor to the
"lay on him" approach: It's whether you want to duck down low enough to
be laid upon. Continuously fighting in the straight-up stance also has
its potential liabilities too.
Post by That SOB Van Owen
So, far be it from me to say Fury can handle Klitschko, but I also
think calling
that hypothetical match is going to require looking anew at each of
them after their next outings.
I have little faith that giants like this will provide a nuanced
battle. As far as "safe bets" go, Klitschko is pretty safe.
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