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Joshua TKO's Klitschko in round 11
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GreatWhiteDope
2017-04-30 00:38:45 UTC
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Joshua knocks out Klitschko for heavyweight title

Associated Press
By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer

LONDON (AP) -- Anthony Joshua survived the first knockdown of his
young career, coming back to drop Wladimir Klitschko twice before
stopping him in the 11th round Saturday night to retain his
heavyweight titles and stake his claim as the boxing's next star.

Before a boisterous crowd of 90,000 at Wembley Stadium, Joshua and
Klitschko traded huge punches in a spectacular fifth round and again
in the sixth before Joshua finally found a way to finish the longtime
former champion late in the fight.

The biggest heavyweight fight in more than a decade had something for
everyone, but in the end it was Joshua who announced himself as the
future of the division. He finally turned things around for good with
a right uppercut early in the 11th round that spun Klitschko's head
around.

He was all over the Ukrainian and dropped him with a left hook, but
Klitschko got up only to take even more punishment. Joshua knocked
Klitschko down again and was landing punches to his head on the ropes
when referee David Fields moved in to stop the bout late in the 11th
round.
"When you go to the trenches that's when you find out who you really
are," Joshua said. "In this small little ring here, there's nowhere to
hide."
The fight was stopped at 2:25 of the 11th. Joshua was up 96-93 and
95-93 on two scorecards, while Klitschko was ahead 95-93 on the third.
The Associated Press had it 94-94 going into the final round.
If the fight was one of the best heavyweight bouts in recent times,
the fifth round was one for the ages. Klitschko went down and Joshua
raised his hands in triumph, only to take severe punishment as
Klitschko came back to batter him late in the round.

Joshua would go down the next round, as the huge crowd quieted and
feared the worst. Somehow, though, he managed to find his legs and
keep Klitschko away before mounting a counter-attack in the 11th round
that won the fight in spectacular fashion.

"If you don't take part, you're going to fail," Joshua said. "Just
give it a go and you never know the outcome."
Klitschko, who reigned over the heavyweight division for a decade, was
fighting both Joshua and Father Time at the age of 41. He looked to be
overmatched in the early rounds, but fought his best after he was
knocked down.

It was anyone's fight when Joshua landed the uppercut that proved
decisive, much to the delight of his countrymen who packed England's
national stadium for the highly anticipated bout.
"As I said I'm not perfect but I'm trying," said Joshua, the 2012
Olympic gold medalist who was fighting for only the 19th time as a
pro.

Joshua had never been beyond seven rounds, and it looked like he might
be running out of gas as he tried to find his legs following the
knockdown in the sixth round. Klitschko, in his 29th world title
fight, seemed to be taking the advantage in the later rounds until the
vicious uppercut sent him spinning across the ring.
"It was really sad I didn't make it tonight," Klitschko said. "I was
planning to do it. It didn't work. But all respect to Anthony."

Joshua defended his heavyweight titles, winning for the 19th time in
as many fights in a bout that lived up to its billing as the best
matchup after a long drought in the heavyweight division. Already a
hero in his native England, he may become one worldwide as he
continues to advance his career at a rapid pace.
Joshua said before the bout that it was just two men in the ring, and
nothing more than that. But it was clear by the crowd's reaction as he
came back to win that it was a lot more than that.

It was a tale of two fights before the final round, with Joshua
dominating early and knocking Klitschko down in the fifth. Just as he
seemed about to finish off his aging opponent, though, Klitschko
landed a straight right hand that put Joshua down and quieted the
stadium.
Joshua barely managed to finish the round, and was still wobbly in the
seventh. He finally began to gather his legs underneath him and, as
the two traded in the 11th round, landed the punch that changed
everything.

"As I said from the get-go, it will be a boxing classic and may the
best man win," the 27-year-old said.
It was a battle of massive heavyweights, with both standing 6-foot-6.
Joshua weighed 250.1 pounds to 240.5 for Klitschko.
Klitschko fell to 64-5 in a long career that began in 1996 after he
won the Olympic gold in Atlanta. In what may have been his last fight,
he was beaten by the Olympic champion from the 2012 Olympics in
London.
Juan Anonly
2017-04-30 17:02:07 UTC
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Post by GreatWhiteDope
Joshua knocks out Klitschko for heavyweight title
Associated Press
By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer
LONDON (AP) -- Anthony Joshua survived the first knockdown of his
young career, coming back to drop Wladimir Klitschko twice before
stopping him in the 11th round Saturday night to retain his
heavyweight titles and stake his claim as the boxing's next star.
He dropped Klitschko thrice before stopping him.

It was an unusual fight in that Showtime aired it at 1:15pm PST and HBO
aired the same fight at 8:00pm PST. Both broadcast teams were there on
opposite sides of the ring, both leveraging the video feed from SKY TV.

I have watched boxing on both for many years. I watched the entire
Joshua/Klitschko fight in the afternoon, and then late in the evening
found I had recorded the HBO version, so watched the first few rounds
again and *could not believe* how much better Kellerman/Lampley/Jones
and Lederman were in calling the fight: Better analysis, better
blow-by-blow description, better historical reference, even better
audio from the corners, which on Showtime could not be heard at all and
they even said as much.

Bernstein/Ranallo/Malinaggi and Farhood are good, but I was surprised
at how much better the HBO crew was. The Showtime crew was pretty much
like guys chattering in your living room, and periodically reading set
pieces about a boxer's hard time growing up, and similar prep-prepped
"color" BS.

I was really surprised at the comparison.
Edmund
2017-05-03 08:29:02 UTC
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Post by Juan Anonly
Post by GreatWhiteDope
Joshua knocks out Klitschko for heavyweight title
Associated Press By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer
LONDON (AP) -- Anthony Joshua survived the first knockdown of his young
career, coming back to drop Wladimir Klitschko twice before stopping
him in the 11th round Saturday night to retain his heavyweight titles
and stake his claim as the boxing's next star.
He dropped Klitschko thrice before stopping him.
It was an unusual fight in that Showtime aired it at 1:15pm PST and HBO
aired the same fight at 8:00pm PST. Both broadcast teams were there on
opposite sides of the ring, both leveraging the video feed from SKY TV.
I have watched boxing on both for many years. I watched the entire
Joshua/Klitschko fight in the afternoon, and then late in the evening
found I had recorded the HBO version, so watched the first few rounds
again and *could not believe* how much better Kellerman/Lampley/Jones
and Lederman were in calling the fight: Better analysis, better
blow-by-blow description, better historical reference, even better audio
from the corners, which on Showtime could not be heard at all and they
even said as much.
Bernstein/Ranallo/Malinaggi and Farhood are good, but I was surprised at
how much better the HBO crew was. The Showtime crew was pretty much
like guys chattering in your living room, and periodically reading set
pieces about a boxer's hard time growing up, and similar prep-prepped
"color" BS.
I was really surprised at the comparison.
About the fight itself.
On the positive side, it was very entertaining and surprising.
Klitschko was in shape as usual, he last some weight and looked very
prepared for a long fight.

Some things that caught my attention where:
Both fighters came in hardly sweating, ( after the warm-up ) and it took
a long time for all the ceremonies to finish before they started the
fight.
Both started slow and carefully with respect for eachothers KO power I
guess.
Joshua was hugely disappointing in terms of stamina, after his attack in
the fifth - when he dropped Klitschko- he was finished and he looked like
he could just fall over and needed an oxygen machine.
Unbelievable after basically the FIRST and ONLY real action of the fight
so far.
From there it really looked that Klitschko would win the fight simply
because Joshua was no less then exhausted and powerless.
Klitschko dropped Joshua and he just made it to get up again.
In the later rounds Klitschko did what he always does, clinching,
avoiding the fight, wrestling, some illegal hidden punches while hanging
over Joshua.. BORING.
Joshua and his corner did not react to klitschko's dirty tactic at all,
as I said so many times before he should have hit Klitschko in the nuts
at that point. Nobody ever did this to Clinchy.
Joshua's corner looked chaotic from the first round and the times when we
could hear anything from that corner it was bad corner work without
specific instructions.
Klitchko's corner looked much more organized and structured.
Luckily for us, Joshua found some energy -which took him far too long-
attacked and landed a uppercut that basically ended the fight.
I am very happy Joshua KOed Klitchko and hope Joshua works on his stamina
maybe his big muscles take too much oxygen.

What is your view on the fight?

Edmund
Juan Anonly
2017-05-03 18:57:22 UTC
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Post by Juan Anonly
Post by GreatWhiteDope
Joshua knocks out Klitschko for heavyweight title
Associated Press By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer
LONDON (AP) -- Anthony Joshua survived the first knockdown of his young
career, coming back to drop Wladimir Klitschko twice before stopping
him in the 11th round Saturday night to retain his heavyweight titles
and stake his claim as the boxing's next star.
He dropped Klitschko thrice before stopping him.
It was an unusual fight in that Showtime aired it at 1:15pm PST and HBO
aired the same fight at 8:00pm PST. Both broadcast teams were there on
opposite sides of the ring, both leveraging the video feed from SKY TV.
I have watched boxing on both for many years. I watched the entire
Joshua/Klitschko fight in the afternoon, and then late in the evening
found I had recorded the HBO version, so watched the first few rounds
again and *could not believe* how much better Kellerman/Lampley/Jones
and Lederman were in calling the fight: Better analysis, better
blow-by-blow description, better historical reference, even better audio
from the corners, which on Showtime could not be heard at all and they
even said as much.
Bernstein/Ranallo/Malinaggi and Farhood are good, but I was surprised at
how much better the HBO crew was. The Showtime crew was pretty much
like guys chattering in your living room, and periodically reading set
pieces about a boxer's hard time growing up, and similar prep-prepped
"color" BS.
I was really surprised at the comparison.
About the fight itself.
On the positive side, it was very entertaining and surprising.
Klitschko was in shape as usual, he last some weight and looked very
prepared for a long fight.
Both fighters came in hardly sweating, ( after the warm-up ) and it took
a long time for all the ceremonies to finish before they started the
fight.
Both started slow and carefully with respect for eachothers KO power I
guess.
Joshua was hugely disappointing in terms of stamina, after his attack in
the fifth - when he dropped Klitschko- he was finished and he looked like
he could just fall over and needed an oxygen machine.
Unbelievable after basically the FIRST and ONLY real action of the fight
so far.
From there it really looked that Klitschko would win the fight simply
because Joshua was no less then exhausted and powerless.
Klitschko dropped Joshua and he just made it to get up again.
In the later rounds Klitschko did what he always does, clinching,
avoiding the fight, wrestling, some illegal hidden punches while hanging
over Joshua.. BORING.
I think it's worth noting that the beginning of the end came with a
monster upper-cut opportunity which was provided Joshua as Klitschko
was putting out both arms in an attempt to clinch.
Post by Edmund
Joshua and his corner did not react to klitschko's dirty tactic at all,
as I said so many times before he should have hit Klitschko in the nuts
at that point.
He did this twice, in amateurish fashion as they were being pulled
apart after a clinch and in both cases the referee warned him.
Additionally, I think some of Joshua's most significant work during his
4-5 rounds of recovery came via body punches, and a number of these
were afforded explicitly because Klitschko was trying to clinch and
much less successfully that usual.
Post by Edmund
Nobody ever did this to Clinchy.
Joshua's corner looked chaotic from the first round and the times when we
could hear anything from that corner it was bad corner work without
specific instructions.
Right: And sometimes two people talking at the same time--that's
something that can fill you with no confidence.
Post by Edmund
Klitchko's corner looked much more organized and structured.
Luckily for us, Joshua found some energy -which took him far too long-
attacked and landed a uppercut that basically ended the fight.
I am very happy Joshua KOed Klitchko and hope Joshua works on his stamina
maybe his big muscles take too much oxygen.
What is your view on the fight?
Not dramatically different than you. I think Klitschko's evaulation of
Joshua before the fight may have been notable; he said he was too
heavily muscled and that he would tire in the later rounds. I think all
the mass doesn't serve him so well, and provided he ever again makes it
to those later rounds I think he's in for more trouble than Klitschko
provided.

I think Deontay Wilder was delighted by what he saw from both men
during the fight. It will likely take a good long while, but I'll be
putting my money on Wilder against Joshua. Wilder can and does fight
from the outside and leverages his power there. Joshua's
power--undeniable--seems to be of use primarily on the inside. I'll
also look forward to Wilder against Klitschko if Klitschko doesn't
retire--which he truly should.

And there's also talk about Tyson Fury's return. He's an unknown to me
against either Joshua or Wilder.
Edmund
2017-05-04 22:33:53 UTC
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Post by Juan Anonly
Post by Edmund
Post by Juan Anonly
Post by GreatWhiteDope
Joshua knocks out Klitschko for heavyweight title
Associated Press By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer
LONDON (AP) -- Anthony Joshua survived the first knockdown of his
young career, coming back to drop Wladimir Klitschko twice before
stopping him in the 11th round Saturday night to retain his
heavyweight titles and stake his claim as the boxing's next star.
He dropped Klitschko thrice before stopping him.
It was an unusual fight in that Showtime aired it at 1:15pm PST and
HBO aired the same fight at 8:00pm PST. Both broadcast teams were
there on opposite sides of the ring, both leveraging the video feed
from SKY TV.
I have watched boxing on both for many years. I watched the entire
Joshua/Klitschko fight in the afternoon, and then late in the evening
found I had recorded the HBO version, so watched the first few rounds
again and *could not believe* how much better Kellerman/Lampley/Jones
and Lederman were in calling the fight: Better analysis, better
blow-by-blow description, better historical reference, even better
audio from the corners, which on Showtime could not be heard at all
and they even said as much.
Bernstein/Ranallo/Malinaggi and Farhood are good, but I was surprised
at how much better the HBO crew was. The Showtime crew was pretty
much like guys chattering in your living room, and periodically
reading set pieces about a boxer's hard time growing up, and similar
prep-prepped "color" BS.
I was really surprised at the comparison.
About the fight itself.
On the positive side, it was very entertaining and surprising.
Klitschko was in shape as usual, he last some weight and looked very
prepared for a long fight.
Both fighters came in hardly sweating, ( after the warm-up ) and it
took a long time for all the ceremonies to finish before they started
the fight.
Both started slow and carefully with respect for eachothers KO power I
guess.
Joshua was hugely disappointing in terms of stamina, after his attack
in the fifth - when he dropped Klitschko- he was finished and he looked
like he could just fall over and needed an oxygen machine.
Unbelievable after basically the FIRST and ONLY real action of the
fight so far.
From there it really looked that Klitschko would win the fight simply
because Joshua was no less then exhausted and powerless.
Klitschko dropped Joshua and he just made it to get up again.
In the later rounds Klitschko did what he always does, clinching,
avoiding the fight, wrestling, some illegal hidden punches while
hanging over Joshua.. BORING.
I think it's worth noting that the beginning of the end came with a
monster upper-cut opportunity which was provided Joshua as Klitschko was
putting out both arms in an attempt to clinch.
I checked that and you are right, well spotted.
Post by Juan Anonly
Post by Edmund
Joshua and his corner did not react to klitschko's dirty tactic at all,
as I said so many times before he should have hit Klitschko in the nuts
at that point.
He did this twice, in amateurish fashion as they were being pulled apart
after a clinch and in both cases the referee warned him. Additionally, I
think some of Joshua's most significant work during his 4-5 rounds of
recovery came via body punches, and a number of these were afforded
explicitly because Klitschko was trying to clinch and much less
successfully that usual.
He is used to wrestle guys that are half a meter shorter then him.
Post by Juan Anonly
Post by Edmund
Nobody ever did this to Clinchy.
Joshua's corner looked chaotic from the first round and the times when
we could hear anything from that corner it was bad corner work without
specific instructions.
Right: And sometimes two people talking at the same time--that's
something that can fill you with no confidence.
Exactly not to mention that it is impossible to concentrate on both at
the same time.
Post by Juan Anonly
Post by Edmund
Klitchko's corner looked much more organized and structured.
Luckily for us, Joshua found some energy -which took him far too long-
attacked and landed a uppercut that basically ended the fight.
I am very happy Joshua KOed Klitchko and hope Joshua works on his
stamina maybe his big muscles take too much oxygen.
What is your view on the fight?
Not dramatically different than you. I think Klitschko's evaulation of
Joshua before the fight may have been notable; he said he was too
heavily muscled and that he would tire in the later rounds. I think all
the mass doesn't serve him so well, and provided he ever again makes it
to those later rounds I think he's in for more trouble than Klitschko
provided.
I think Deontay Wilder was delighted by what he saw from both men during
the fight. It will likely take a good long while, but I'll be putting my
money on Wilder against Joshua. Wilder can and does fight from the
outside and leverages his power there. Joshua's
power--undeniable--seems to be of use primarily on the inside. I'll also
look forward to Wilder against Klitschko if Klitschko doesn't
retire--which he truly should.
And there's also talk about Tyson Fury's return. He's an unknown to me
against either Joshua or Wilder.
To be honest I haven't seen much from either of them but from what I have
seen, I found Joshua better then some people said about him, being
equally honest I am pretty disappointed that he was so exhausted after
just one attack. I am not impressed about his cornet either.
Still hope that Joshua improves on his stamina and love to see a Joshua-
Wilder fight ASAP.

Edmund
Tony
2017-05-18 22:23:39 UTC
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Lederman were in calling the fight: Better analysis, better
Post by Juan Anonly
blow-by-blow description, better historical reference, even better hat is your view on the fight?
Not dramatically different than you. I think Klitschko's evaulation of
Joshua before the fight may have been notable; he said he was too
In wouldn't bet Joshua with someone else's money. That's how bad I think
Joshua is. Good luck betting that bum.
Juan Anonly
2017-05-18 22:45:20 UTC
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On 2017-05-18 22:23:39 +0000, Tony said:

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Post by Juan Anonly
Not dramatically different than you. I think Klitschko's evaulation of
Joshua before the fight may have been notable; he said he was too ...
In wouldn't bet Joshua with someone else's money. That's how bad I
think Joshua is. Good luck betting that bum.
I don't bet, not with anybody's money. Nevertheless, it's not a
question of whether he's a bum, but a relative comparison of which bums
are more or less bummier than him.

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