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Doping
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Edmund
2015-10-09 15:34:20 UTC
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Is there any boxing organization that actually do some serious dope
testing?
Although I used to be in favor to give it all free, now that I see what
kind of monsters there walking around in sports... not any longer.

Now I see some boxers that raise my eyebrow and not only mine if I read
about Mayweather and his cheating and getting away with it.
When I just look at the klitschko's, so what is actually happening?


Edmund
Juan Anonly
2015-10-10 19:15:24 UTC
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Post by Edmund
Is there any boxing organization that actually do some serious dope
testing?
No--it's too fragmented. Jim Lampley's "The Fight Game", had another
screed on the topic this past week. Boxing is a pastiche of little
regional fiefdoms all operating in their own way, answerable to almost
no one, and then within that frame you have managers, trainers, gyms
and venues that also do things their won way answerable to almost no
one. In among that crew you have a significant proportion of low-lifes
and people who will be involved while they can make a quick buck while
running some other illegal scam.

One of the biggest movers and shakers in boxing, Don King: Look at his
illustrious background and track record and you have a microcosm of the
whole of this business.
Post by Edmund
Although I used to be in favor to give it all free, now that I see what
kind of monsters there walking around in sports... not any longer.
Now I see some boxers that raise my eyebrow and not only mine if I read
about Mayweather and his cheating and getting away with it.
When I just look at the klitschko's, so what is actually happening?
Again, I refer you to Lampley. The fact that many top-rated boxers are
eager to promote themselves as VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association)
approved, and calling for their opponents to be as well, this is good
stuff for boxing. Whethere it will get a foothold I can't say. But
when Golovkin, Cotto, Canelo, Kovalev and others are all promoting VADA
benchmarks, it may well spread.
Donn C. Irving
2015-10-10 20:08:56 UTC
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Post by Juan Anonly
Post by Edmund
Is there any boxing organization that actually do some serious dope
testing?
No--it's too fragmented. Jim Lampley's "The Fight Game", had another
screed on the topic this past week. Boxing is a pastiche of little
regional fiefdoms all operating in their own way, answerable to almost
no one, and then within that frame you have managers, trainers, gyms
and venues that also do things their won way answerable to almost no
one. In among that crew you have a significant proportion of low-lifes
and people who will be involved while they can make a quick buck while
running some other illegal scam.
One of the biggest movers and shakers in boxing, Don King: Look at his
illustrious background and track record and you have a microcosm of the
whole of this business.
Post by Edmund
Although I used to be in favor to give it all free, now that I see what
kind of monsters there walking around in sports... not any longer.
Now I see some boxers that raise my eyebrow and not only mine if I read
about Mayweather and his cheating and getting away with it.
When I just look at the klitschko's, so what is actually happening?
Again, I refer you to Lampley. The fact that many top-rated boxers are
eager to promote themselves as VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association)
approved, and calling for their opponents to be as well, this is good
stuff for boxing. Whethere it will get a foothold I can't say. But
when Golovkin, Cotto, Canelo, Kovalev and others are all promoting VADA
benchmarks, it may well spread.
Juan, once again you posted a very excellent points/opinions.

Thank you!

DCI
Edmund
2015-10-11 07:46:54 UTC
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Post by Juan Anonly
Post by Edmund
Is there any boxing organization that actually do some serious dope
testing?
No--it's too fragmented. Jim Lampley's "The Fight Game", had another
screed on the topic this past week. Boxing is a pastiche of little
regional fiefdoms all operating in their own way, answerable to almost
no one, and then within that frame you have managers, trainers, gyms and
venues that also do things their won way answerable to almost no one.
In among that crew you have a significant proportion of low-lifes and
people who will be involved while they can make a quick buck while
running some other illegal scam.
One of the biggest movers and shakers in boxing, Don King: Look at his
illustrious background and track record and you have a microcosm of the
whole of this business.
Post by Edmund
Although I used to be in favor to give it all free, now that I see what
kind of monsters there walking around in sports... not any longer.
Now I see some boxers that raise my eyebrow and not only mine if I read
about Mayweather and his cheating and getting away with it.
When I just look at the klitschko's, so what is actually happening?
Again, I refer you to Lampley. The fact that many top-rated boxers are
eager to promote themselves as VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association)
approved, and calling for their opponents to be as well, this is good
stuff for boxing. Whethere it will get a foothold I can't say. But
when Golovkin, Cotto, Canelo, Kovalev and others are all promoting VADA
benchmarks, it may well spread.
Thank you. I am not surprised.


Edmund

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