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Ex-heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson dies, 71 yrs old
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Rieper
2006-05-11 16:14:08 UTC
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mwhaught
2006-05-11 17:06:48 UTC
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Just heard this on the radio. Rest in Peace.

-mwh
SkippyPB
2006-05-12 17:42:55 UTC
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Just heard this on the radio. Rest in Peace.
-mwh
He was suffering from Alzheimer's and other ailments, so death was
probably a welcome respite.

My condolences to his family.

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2006-05-11 17:47:53 UTC
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Terrible news. It's like the old saying that bad people stick around
and the good ones go away too soon.

We still have human garbage like Tyson and Judah destroying our sport's
image to mainstream audiences while a classy guy like Floyd Patterson
passes away.

May he finally rest in peace, if he had a solid chin he could have been
the greatest Light-Heavyweight (he very rarely weighed 200) that ever
lived. Classy, classy technician inside the ring and a class act
outside of it, different times, better people, they don't make solid
individuals like him any more.

Take it easy, Champ.



André
History Fan
2006-05-11 19:06:33 UTC
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I know Patterson had been sick for a long time. A quiet, decent man,
very good (but not great) fighter.
pmfan57
2006-05-11 20:11:49 UTC
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I know Patterson had been sick for a long time. A quiet, decent man,
very good (but not great) fighter.
He was a gold medalist and a long time contender who fought on even
terms with Ellis and Quarry years after he was no longer champion.

Not a great *champion*, but at least "near great" as a fighter, all
things considered, especially if the gold medal is taken into
consideration.
Ruddell
2006-05-12 01:01:02 UTC
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I know Patterson had been sick for a long time. A quiet, decent man,
very good (but not great) fighter.
He was a gold medalist and a long time contender who fought on even
terms with Ellis and Quarry years after he was no longer champion.
Not a great *champion*, but at least "near great" as a fighter, all
things considered, especially if the gold medal is taken into
consideration.
A gold medal in any event at the Olympics makes one great. In boxing when
you add a professional career which takes you to the top means greatness. How
much more does one have to be with those two accomplishments under your belt
to be classified as great? Floyd was one of the great ones and will always
have his place under that category in boxing history.

RIP Floyd, you were one of the great ones...
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Cheers!

Dennis

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History Fan
2006-05-12 10:41:26 UTC
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A gold medal in any event at the Olympics makes one great. In boxing when
you add a professional career which takes you to the top means greatness. How
much more does one have to be with those two accomplishments under your belt
to be classified as great? Floyd was one of the great ones and will always
have his place under that category in boxing history.
I beg to differ. Winning a boxing gold medal in the Olympics is an
impressive accomplishment, but I wouldn't put him on the pedestal of
greatness. From what I've seen, most of these guys are good, but hardly
exceptional boxers. The one exception would be Teofilo Stevenson, who won
gold in 3 Olympics, and probably would have won it again in 1984 had Cuba
not boycotted . Winning a professional world title doesn't mean you're
"great" either. Primo Carnera is another example. Patterson borders on
being a great fighter because he was the 1st to re-capture the heavyweight
title. But I think he falls short due to his glass jaw, and humiliating
defeats to Sonny Liston. Being KO'd by the limited Ingemar Johannson
doesn't help either.
Walter Mitty
2006-05-12 10:47:47 UTC
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Post by Ruddell
A gold medal in any event at the Olympics makes one great. In boxing when
you add a professional career which takes you to the top means greatness. How
much more does one have to be with those two accomplishments under your belt
to be classified as great? Floyd was one of the great ones and will always
have his place under that category in boxing history.
I beg to differ. Winning a boxing gold medal in the Olympics is an
impressive accomplishment, but I wouldn't put him on the pedestal of
greatness. From what I've seen, most of these guys are good, but hardly
exceptional boxers. The one exception would be Teofilo Stevenson, who won
Lennox Lewis? Korea 1988?
History Fan
2006-05-12 11:24:19 UTC
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I beg to differ. Winning a boxing gold medal in the Olympics is an
impressive accomplishment, but I wouldn't put him on the pedestal of
greatness. From what I've seen, most of these guys are good, but hardly
exceptional boxers. The one exception would be Teofilo Stevenson, who won
Lennox Lewis? Korea 1988?
I should have written..."an exception," rather than "one exception."

There are many boxers who won gold medals, turned pro and had
sensational careers. And there are others who won gold, turned pro and had
disappointing careers. Howard Davis Jr. a good example. He had a perfect
amateur style, but was ill-suited for the rigors of professional boxing. I
don't even like to use the word "great" in describing Olympic boxers. Most
of them are still youngsters, and still learning their trade. Once you
become a pro, win a title and defend it several times against quality
opposition, then the title "great" might be appropriate. Patterson won a
gold medal, won a pro title, but defended it against 2nd tier opponents
during his reign, thanks to the careful stewardship of Cus D'Amato.
Ruddell
2006-05-12 12:33:23 UTC
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I should have written..."an exception," rather than "one exception."
There are many boxers who won gold medals, turned pro and had
sensational careers. And there are others who won gold, turned pro and had
disappointing careers. Howard Davis Jr. a good example. He had a perfect
amateur style, but was ill-suited for the rigors of professional boxing. I
don't even like to use the word "great" in describing Olympic boxers. Most
of them are still youngsters, and still learning their trade. Once you
become a pro, win a title and defend it several times against quality
opposition, then the title "great" might be appropriate. Patterson won a
gold medal, won a pro title, but defended it against 2nd tier opponents
during his reign, thanks to the careful stewardship of Cus D'Amato.
You're missing the point altogether. When you accomplish gold at the
Olympics and then become heavyweight champion of the world, well, you've made
it to the very top at both levels. That separates the boxer from many others
who have tried to do both. No, Floyd wasn't the greatest of them all by any
means but he did get to the top levels. Losses aren't uncommon for most
boxers but when you focus on the plus, that tells another story. Floyd
wasn't a big guy but still managed somehow. He definitely earned his spot
in history and his name is at the top of the page at times...
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Cheers!

Dennis

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pmfan57
2006-05-12 15:04:27 UTC
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I should have written..."an exception," rather than "one exception."
There are many boxers who won gold medals, turned pro and had
sensational careers. And there are others who won gold, turned pro and had
disappointing careers. Howard Davis Jr. a good example. He had a perfect
amateur style, but was ill-suited for the rigors of professional boxing. I
don't even like to use the word "great" in describing Olympic boxers. Most
of them are still youngsters, and still learning their trade. Once you
become a pro, win a title and defend it several times against quality
opposition, then the title "great" might be appropriate. Patterson won a
gold medal, won a pro title, but defended it against 2nd tier opponents
during his reign, thanks to the careful stewardship of Cus D'Amato.
You're missing the point altogether. When you accomplish gold at the
Olympics and then become heavyweight champion of the world, well, you've made
it to the very top at both levels. That separates the boxer from many others
who have tried to do both. No, Floyd wasn't the greatest of them all by any
means but he did get to the top levels. Losses aren't uncommon for most
boxers but when you focus on the plus, that tells another story. Floyd
wasn't a big guy but still managed somehow. He definitely earned his spot
in history and his name is at the top of the page at times...
--
Cheers!
Dennis
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I think those two accomplishments show he was a great fighter (whatever
great means), although not a great heavyweight champion. He beat
contenders years after he was champion, too. I would have loved to
have seen him fight Liston in the late sixties. He might have had a
better chance, since he aged better than Sonny.
History Fan
2006-05-12 19:15:23 UTC
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Post by Ruddell
When you accomplish gold at the
Olympics and then become heavyweight champion of the world, well, you've made
it to the very top at both levels. That separates the boxer from many others
who have tried to do both.
I agree, but accomplishing that doesn't necessarily mean you're a
"great" fighter.
Ruddell
2006-05-12 23:15:21 UTC
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Post by Ruddell
When you accomplish gold at the
Olympics and then become heavyweight champion of the world, well, you've made
it to the very top at both levels. That separates the boxer from many others
who have tried to do both.
I agree, but accomplishing that doesn't necessarily mean you're a
"great" fighter.
Ok, I guess we just agree to disagree.

I was talking to my partner (wife for those politically correct types) about
Floyd. And you know, he was a good guy and he never took any of his losses
with the type of mouthpiece attitudes we've seen in the last few years. No,
he wasn't a saint or anything like that but he was a great guy and will be
remembered as that. Sorta in a great way (lol, ok. That was a shot and I'll
stop now).

Floyd, RIP and see you there...
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Cheers!

Dennis

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The Sanity Cruzer
2006-05-12 13:44:22 UTC
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Patterson won a gold medal, won a pro title, but defended it against 2nd
tier opponents during his reign, thanks to the careful stewardship of Cus
D'Amato.
To Floyd's credit, he took on Liston against D'Amato's suggestions. Also,
after Patterson lost his title, he did come back and had several impressive
showings, displaying skills beyond what many thought he possessed. I
thought he beat Jerry Quarry (at least in their first bout and probably the
second too) and most thought that his loss to Jimmy Ellis for a version of
the HW title was a robbery. I thought he'd be kayoed by Chuvalo, but
Patterson beat George decisively. After the losses to Liston he also beat
Eddie Machen, Henry Cooper and Oscar Bonavena. Following the losses to
Liston, Patterson lost only to Quarry (disputed), Ellis (highly disputed)
and to Ali twice. While Patterson might not have been an all-time great HW,
he certainly was successful at erasing the embarrassment of the losses to
Liston and he earned the respect of the boxing community for how he carried
himself.

When I was a boy, I read Patterson's story, "Victory Over Myself" and it
told of boy who, with his demons kicking and screaming all of the way, grew
into a man who carried himself with pride and dignity. I cannot say I
agreed always with Patterson's outlook, but I did respect from where he was
coming and, more importantly for me, from where he came.
The Arranger
2006-05-12 14:02:14 UTC
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Patterson won a gold medal, won a pro title, but defended it against 2nd
tier opponents during his reign, thanks to the careful stewardship of Cus
D'Amato.
To Floyd's credit, he took on Liston against D'Amato's suggestions. Also,
after Patterson lost his title, he did come back and had several impressive
showings, displaying skills beyond what many thought he possessed. I
thought he beat Jerry Quarry (at least in their first bout and probably the
second too) and most thought that his loss to Jimmy Ellis for a version of
the HW title was a robbery. I thought he'd be kayoed by Chuvalo, but
Patterson beat George decisively. After the losses to Liston he also beat
Eddie Machen, Henry Cooper and Oscar Bonavena. Following the losses to
Liston, Patterson lost only to Quarry (disputed), Ellis (highly disputed)
and to Ali twice. While Patterson might not have been an all-time great HW,
he certainly was successful at erasing the embarrassment of the losses to
Liston and he earned the respect of the boxing community for how he carried
himself.
When I was a boy, I read Patterson's story, "Victory Over Myself" and it
told of boy who, with his demons kicking and screaming all of the way, grew
into a man who carried himself with pride and dignity. I cannot say I
agreed always with Patterson's outlook, but I did respect from where he was
coming and, more importantly for me, from where he came.
That expresses my feelings about Floyd Patterson exactly. Well said,
TSC!

The Arranger
SkippyPB
2006-05-12 17:46:10 UTC
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Post by The Sanity Cruzer
Patterson won a gold medal, won a pro title, but defended it against 2nd
tier opponents during his reign, thanks to the careful stewardship of Cus
D'Amato.
To Floyd's credit, he took on Liston against D'Amato's suggestions. Also,
after Patterson lost his title, he did come back and had several impressive
showings, displaying skills beyond what many thought he possessed. I
thought he beat Jerry Quarry (at least in their first bout and probably the
second too) and most thought that his loss to Jimmy Ellis for a version of
the HW title was a robbery. I thought he'd be kayoed by Chuvalo, but
Patterson beat George decisively. After the losses to Liston he also beat
Eddie Machen, Henry Cooper and Oscar Bonavena. Following the losses to
Liston, Patterson lost only to Quarry (disputed), Ellis (highly disputed)
and to Ali twice. While Patterson might not have been an all-time great HW,
he certainly was successful at erasing the embarrassment of the losses to
Liston and he earned the respect of the boxing community for how he carried
himself.
When I was a boy, I read Patterson's story, "Victory Over Myself" and it
told of boy who, with his demons kicking and screaming all of the way, grew
into a man who carried himself with pride and dignity. I cannot say I
agreed always with Patterson's outlook, but I did respect from where he was
coming and, more importantly for me, from where he came.
That expresses my feelings about Floyd Patterson exactly. Well said,
TSC!
The Arranger
Ditto.

Regards,
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nipples I'd come out sucking my thumb."
-- Freddie Starr
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southpaw
2006-05-13 07:08:24 UTC
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defeats to Sonny Liston. Being KO'd by the limited Ingemar Johannson
doesn't help either.
Ever heard of rematches? Just thinking about the left hook that ended
Patterson - Johansson II has my leg twitching.

Rest in Peace, Champ.
Mark Ashley
2006-05-15 00:41:37 UTC
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Tribute Biofile: Floyd Patterson
By Scoop Malinowski
Note: This Biofile interview was conducted in 1993.
Status: Former Heavyweight champion: 1956-60, 1961-62.
DOB: January 4, 1935 In: Waco, North Carolina
Residence: "New Paltz, NY. Since 1965."

Childhood Heroes: "Joe Louis, he was my idol. I liked the way he carried
himself. Ray Robinson. Of all the boxers I've seen in my life, only
Robinson could do everything. Rocky Marciano. In my mind he was a guy
with very little ability, but he still became heavyweight champion. I
have never seen such a display of determination. He won his fights,
every one of them, on sheer guts and determination."

Hobbies/Interests: "Working with kids. That's it."
Nickname: "I never had a nickname, except for Rabbit from Cassius Clay."

Early Boxing Memory: "I first started out with my two older brothers
Billy and Frank. I carried their bags when I was 12. I was just released
from a school where a judge sent me away to. I used to run away from
home and steal at night. I watched my brothers train and I wanted to
train so badly. Cus (D'Amato) asked me if I wanted to start and gave me
some equipment. I started. I won the Golden Gloves when I was 16 and 17.
I was Cus's first Golden Gloves champ.

But I learned so very much away at the school. A teacher there - Mrs.
Costa - when I got to know her, she gave me confidence in so many ways.
I had always felt stupid in school. I hated school. Then on Fridays, she
used to have a question and answer session. She'd ask a question and
who'd ever answer it would get a piece of candy. One time she asked a
question and I thought to myself, I knew the answer. No one answered.
Then she gave the answer and I was right. I knew it. I ran out of the
classroom, down the hall. She chased after me and said, Floyd, I know
you knew the answer. She gave me the candy. That was the beginning for
me right there."

Favorite Movie: "Casablanca."

Musical Tastes: "Hillbilly. Hank Williams - better known as The Drifter.
I loved his stuff. Boy, he wrote some beautiful stuff."

Favorite Non-Boxing Sport To Play: "Training. Running. I like training.
Almost every day. I fought at 190. Now I'm 190-195. Boxing is a sport I
sincerely love. I just love."

Greatest Sports Moment: "Winning the Olympics (gold medal as a
middleweight in Helsinki, Finland in 1952). That is my greatest sports
moment. Nothing will ever surpass that. It was a feeling I never had.
Never in a million years did I expect to win. I asked God, Just let me
win my first fight and I'll be satisfied. I won my first by decision.
Then I won the next three by knockout. I felt very, very proud. Almost
as if I won a war for my country."

Most Painful Moment: "When I lost the fight to Johansson. I felt like I
let the whole country down. He took the title back to Sweden. I'd've
given a million dollars if they'd cut a trap door in the ring and I
could crawl through it to my dressing room. The walk through the crowd
was worse than any physical pain I suffered. I always fought for people
more than myself. I could accept defeat but I had disappointed all my
fans. After losing to Johansson, I hid in my house for three weeks."

Closest Boxing Friends: "Ingemar Johansson. I still see him. He has a
place in Miami. He doesn't like the cold in Sweden. I try to go over to
Sweden every year. I'm very popular over there. When I lost my title,
80% of my mail came from Sweden. They wrote how sorry they were for me
losing. After I regained the title, I went back. I was criticized for
that - because they're all white people over there. I don't care about
colors. I don't see colors. They supported me and I appreciate it. I
fought Johansson three times. When I visit, he takes me out to dinner
and I take him out."

Hardest Puncher(s): "Johansson - the hardest I've ever been hit. I don't
remember going down or getrting up. When Sonny Liston hit me, I remember
going down and getting up. Of all the heavyweight champions, I've been
knocked down the most. But when my fights were stopped, I was always
standing up. So I also hold the record for getting up. The referee never
said Ten and I was on the ground."

Fights Most Concerned Before: "Whenever I had a fight, I wanted to have
a lot of fear. Fear exhilarates everything - speed, power. The more fear
I had, the better I fought."

Pre-Fight Meal: "Steak, vegetables, potato. I'd eat at 2 or 3 in the
afternoon if I was fighting at 10 p.m. One big meal a day."

Toughest Opponents: "The two toughest both put me in bed. Hurricane
Jackson - all he did was throw punches. And the Canadian, George
Chuvalo. Very strong. Both were stronger than me. Both weighed a lot
more. After Chuvalo, I nearly collapsed in the dressing room. I gave
more in that fight than any other."

Favorite Fights: "Cassius Clay-Joe Frazier III. The Thrilla in Manilla.
Man, that was some fight. Rocky Marciano-Joe Walcott I."

Interesting Fact: "I have no enemies. I like everybody. Even one's who
don't like me, I like them [laughs]."

People Most Admired: "People at nursing homes. I go every week I'm here.
Usually every Sunday for 2-3 hours. They're my best friends. I enjoy
talking with the people. I give Communion."

Most Treasured Possession: "God. A long time ago he showed me he was
there. I never forgot it. About 17 years ago my daughter Jennifer
brought a little cat home. Every day she'd come home from school and
say, Where's the cat? Where's the cat? One day, the cat got run over by
a car. I prayed to God, What should I say to Jennifer? Every time I cry
when I think about it. You probably won't believe it. She didn't ask
about the cat until seven years later. He just took it out of her mind.
What a clever way to do it. Everything dawned on me then."

Rest in Peace, Champ.
Loki
2006-05-11 21:35:02 UTC
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I know Patterson had been sick for a long time. A quiet, decent man,
very good (but not great) fighter.
He had remarkable skills, but bad timing. Coming up right after
Marciano and before Liston and Ali would be too much for a lot of
fighters.

He would be in the top 30 heavyweights, possibly even top 25. It is a
shame that there was not a cruiserweight division during his time. He
would be on the top 10 list.


Loki

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2006-05-11 21:51:54 UTC
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Rest in Peace Floyd.
b***@webtv.net
2006-05-11 21:52:51 UTC
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I had the honor of meeting Mr. Patterson when he came to my hometown.
He was training his stepson Tracy Harris Patterson who latter went on to
be WBC super bantamweight champion. He was very gracious and polite. He
was a credit to boxing, stood for what was right and just. He'll be
missed.

Rest In Peace
W***@aol.com
2006-05-11 22:23:52 UTC
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Rest in Peace. A good guy all around.
SkippyPB
2006-05-12 17:47:09 UTC
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I had the honor of meeting Mr. Patterson when he came to my hometown.
He was training his stepson Tracy Harris Patterson who latter went on to
be WBC super bantamweight champion. He was very gracious and polite. He
was a credit to boxing, stood for what was right and just. He'll be
missed.
Rest In Peace
Tracy was his son. Floyd adopted him.

Regards,
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"I'm so unlucky that if I was to fall into a barrel of
nipples I'd come out sucking my thumb."
-- Freddie Starr
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Steve
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2015-09-30 01:36:26 UTC
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I have a autogragh boxing glove signed by Floyd Patterson, it was my fathers.The glove is black and white, 18 oz sparring glove, made in Pakistan with the name Dan on it. My father met him in the early 90's. Will sell for 200.00.
Tony
2015-10-02 23:13:04 UTC
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That's sad news news alright. I go crazy (like the bull with the red
cape) when I even see the mention of a paki. I would have had a perfect
record if all my opponents were pakis.

j***@gmail.com
2015-09-30 01:41:38 UTC
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Selling Floyd Pattersons autograph boxing glove for 200.00. My father got it from Floyd in the early 90's. Glove is an 18 oz. sparring glove. If interested, face book me. Jerry Setzer.
Juan Anonly
2015-09-30 04:22:38 UTC
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Selling Floyd Pattersons autograph boxing glove for 200.00. My father
got it from Floyd in the early 90's. Glove is an 18 oz. sparring glove.
If interested, face book me. Jerry Setzer.
Sad to see him go. I was thinking I could have outpointed him, there
during his last few days. Sure it would be wrong, very wrong indeed.

But one has to do what one must to do to make yourself feel good, and
usually at the expense of others. Thanks, Mr. Patterson for being one
class act! "The gentleman of boxing as they once said. Except, of
course, the whole insistance on calling Muhammad Ali "Cassius Clay".
But hey, this many years later, you even get a pass on that. Hell, even
Louis Armstrong said some snarly things about bop until he acclimated
to the way time does this "marching on" thing. Talk about a different
time, he fought Liston at 189 pounds! Try coming into the ring in 2015
at under 220!

Sleep tight, Floyd!
Edmund
2015-09-30 08:16:07 UTC
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Selling Floyd Pattersons autograph boxing glove for 200.00. My father
got it from Floyd in the early 90's. Glove is an 18 oz. sparring glove.
If interested, face book me. Jerry Setzer.
Sad to see him go. I was thinking I could have outpointed him, there
during his last few days. Sure it would be wrong, very wrong indeed.
But one has to do what one must to do to make yourself feel good, and
usually at the expense of others. Thanks, Mr. Patterson for being one
class act! "The gentleman of boxing as they once said. Except, of
course, the whole insistance on calling Muhammad Ali "Cassius Clay". But
hey, this many years later, you even get a pass on that. Hell, even
Louis Armstrong said some snarly things about bop until he acclimated to
the way time does this "marching on" thing. Talk about a different time,
he fought Liston at 189 pounds! Try coming into the ring in 2015 at
under 220!
Sleep tight, Floyd!
R.I.P. Floyd.

Edmund
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