Mayweather-Pacquiao thoughts anyone?

[Edmund]

First I have to admit I didn't have seen much of either since I am more
interested in the heavyweight division and even there my interest faded a
couple of decades ago.

Now I read weird things about one more of less accusing the other of
doping use and at the same time not complying with financial consequences
if he himself get caught being juiced.
For me that is pretty much the same as stating “ yes I am using PEDs “,
steroid abuse can also be a perfect explanation for his repeatedly
domestic abuse and violent behavior in general.
About the fight itself, based on what I have seen in the Ricky Hatton /
Mayweather fight and Floyds reach advantage I expect Mayweather to do a
lot of holding/pulling in this fight too.
The insane amount of money involved, the price of the tickets, it all
puts a lot of pressure on the referee and I am afraid the ref will not be
able to prevent that and it could be a one sided fight with an easy win
for Mayweather. Since Mayweather doesn't have my sympathy, I hope I am
very wrong.


Edmund

[5***@gmail.com]

Post by Edmund
First I have to admit I didn't have seen much of either since I am more
interested in the heavyweight division and even there my interest faded a
couple of decades ago.
Now I read weird things about one more of less accusing the other of
doping use and at the same time not complying with financial consequences
if he himself get caught being juiced.
For me that is pretty much the same as stating " yes I am using PEDs ",
steroid abuse can also be a perfect explanation for his repeatedly
domestic abuse and violent behavior in general.
About the fight itself, based on what I have seen in the Ricky Hatton /
Mayweather fight and Floyds reach advantage I expect Mayweather to do a
lot of holding/pulling in this fight too.
The insane amount of money involved, the price of the tickets, it all
puts a lot of pressure on the referee and I am afraid the ref will not be
able to prevent that and it could be a one sided fight with an easy win
for Mayweather. Since Mayweather doesn't have my sympathy, I hope I am
very wrong.
Edmund

Mayweather is just too damned fast, quick, illusive, good.

DCI

[SkippyPB]

Post by 5***@gmail.com

Post by Edmund
First I have to admit I didn't have seen much of either since I am more
interested in the heavyweight division and even there my interest faded a
couple of decades ago.
Now I read weird things about one more of less accusing the other of
doping use and at the same time not complying with financial consequences
if he himself get caught being juiced.
For me that is pretty much the same as stating " yes I am using PEDs ",
steroid abuse can also be a perfect explanation for his repeatedly
domestic abuse and violent behavior in general.
About the fight itself, based on what I have seen in the Ricky Hatton /
Mayweather fight and Floyds reach advantage I expect Mayweather to do a
lot of holding/pulling in this fight too.
The insane amount of money involved, the price of the tickets, it all
puts a lot of pressure on the referee and I am afraid the ref will not be
able to prevent that and it could be a one sided fight with an easy win
for Mayweather. Since Mayweather doesn't have my sympathy, I hope I am
very wrong.
Edmund

Mayweather is just too damned fast, quick, illusive, good.
DCI

Mayweather is the naturally smaller guy but you'd never know it by
looking at both fighters now. Had they fought 5 years ago, Pacquiao
would have been able to take advantage of his naturally larger size
but now he can't. Mayweather does have the faster hands but doesn't
throw in volumes while Pacquiao does. While I like Manny much more
than I do Mayweather I think Pacquiao is further down the "near
retirement" slope than is Mayweather and Mayweather will probably win
the fight by a UD.

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Post by 5***@gmail.com
Mayweather is just too damned fast, quick, illusive, good.

Quite likely right. Nevertheless he is older, though showing no
conspicuous wear, and is now fighting against one of the few
significant boxers who have a serious chance of upending me. All
Mayweather needs to lose is about 1/10th of a second in response time
to get close enough to other humans.

This is the first time since he un-retired that he will be facing a
truly spectacular boxer. That changes the odds a bit.

My calculation--they got my $99!!

[Tony]

Post by Edmund
First I have to admit I didn't have seen much of either since I am more
interested in the heavyweight division and even there my interest faded a
couple of decades ago.
Now I read weird things about one more of less accusing the other of
doping use and at the same time not complying with financial consequences
if he himself get caught being juiced.
For me that is pretty much the same as stating “ yes I am using PEDs “,
steroid abuse can also be a perfect explanation for his repeatedly
domestic abuse and violent behavior in general.
About the fight itself, based on what I have seen in the Ricky Hatton /
Mayweather fight and Floyds reach advantage I expect Mayweather to do a
lot of holding/pulling in this fight too.
The insane amount of money involved, the price of the tickets, it all
puts a lot of pressure on the referee and I am afraid the ref will not be
able to prevent that and it could be a one sided fight with an easy win
for Mayweather. Since Mayweather doesn't have my sympathy, I hope I am
very wrong.
Edmund

Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

[Edmund]

Post by Tony

Post by Edmund
First I have to admit I didn't have seen much of either since I am more
interested in the heavyweight division and even there my interest faded
a couple of decades ago.
Now I read weird things about one more of less accusing the other of
doping use and at the same time not complying with financial
consequences if he himself get caught being juiced.
For me that is pretty much the same as stating “ yes I am using PEDs “,
steroid abuse can also be a perfect explanation for his repeatedly
domestic abuse and violent behavior in general.
About the fight itself, based on what I have seen in the Ricky Hatton /
Mayweather fight and Floyds reach advantage I expect Mayweather to do a
lot of holding/pulling in this fight too.
The insane amount of money involved, the price of the tickets, it all
puts a lot of pressure on the referee and I am afraid the ref will not
be able to prevent that and it could be a one sided fight with an easy
win for Mayweather. Since Mayweather doesn't have my sympathy, I hope
I am very wrong.
Edmund

Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

Maybe, as said I don't know much about the lighter weight divisions,
unfortunately the heavy weight class isn't any better the last 20 years
or so.
The fight I have seen against Ricky Hatton showed me that Floyd is
fighting "clever" and uses all tricks there are. At the same time Hatton
was fighting a foolish and predicable as could be, pity because Hatton
was in a really good physical shape.
BTW I strongly suspect Floyd using - not yet checked PEDs and IF they
save a blood sample from him like they did with Armstrong, I am pretty
sure it will come out positive in time.
Oh and I am definitely not going to pay a dime for that arrogant
-am better then Ali- prick.

Edmund

[Juan Anonly]

Post by Tony
Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

Hearns and Pryor took a jillion punches more than Floyd has over the
course of his career because Floyd doesn't get hit. That's one one
half of the calculation--his defensive skills are some of the best in
history. He didn't get to be a perenniel pound-for-pound best pick by
everybody everywhere by being "devoid of talent". That's ludicrous.
He won that honor, and others, by putting his gloves on the other guy's
face. That's how it works.

That said, I agree that he's been picking too young/too old boxers
since he unretired in 2009. He's just as wiley and wary and
safety-concious out of the ring (selecting oppononents and markething
them as valid) as he is inside the ring. That's the reason I'm no fan:
He ducks, runs and counters. He does it all famously well, but it's
frustrating to watch and he doesn't win in spectacular fashion.

TWO 12 rounders with Maidana? TWO? What was the second one suppose to
prove? Floyd's last knockout (other than sucker-punching an
apologizing Victor Ortiz) was in 2007! He wins like amateurs
do--points only. Including the 2007 knockout, he's had one other one
over 10 years. KO's aren't everything and they aren't even the main
thing. The main things are courage, passion and determination.
Instead, Mayweather has brilliant defensive skills, and excellent
marketing. It's tough to get excited.

With Manny--it's almost *always* exciting.

[5***@gmail.com]

Post by Juan Anonly

Post by Tony
Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

Hearns and Pryor took a jillion punches more than Floyd has over the
course of his career because Floyd doesn't get hit. That's one one
half of the calculation--his defensive skills are some of the best in
history. He didn't get to be a perenniel pound-for-pound best pick by
everybody everywhere by being "devoid of talent". That's ludicrous.
He won that honor, and others, by putting his gloves on the other guy's
face. That's how it works.

Cut -

Mayweather is the kind of boxer who you could fight in a phonebooth - remember those? - and he wouldn't get hit. He is just too damned quick!

DCI

[Juan Anonly]

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Post by Juan Anonly

Post by Tony
Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

Hearns and Pryor took a jillion punches more than Floyd has over the
course of his career because Floyd doesn't get hit. That's one one
half of the calculation--his defensive skills are some of the best in
history. He didn't get to be a perenniel pound-for-pound best pick by
everybody everywhere by being "devoid of talent". That's ludicrous.
He won that honor, and others, by putting his gloves on the other guy's
face. That's how it works.

Cut -
Mayweather is the kind of boxer who you could fight in a phonebooth -
remember those? - and he wouldn't get hit. He is just too damned quick!

Quite true, but apparently in a phone booth or in a cow pasture, he's
also equally uninteresting. I don't need to see guys beat one another
to a pulp, but for me "action" is sometthing I don't really get in a
Mayweather fight.

[Tony]

Post by Juan Anonly

Post by Tony
Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

Hearns and Pryor took a jillion punches more than Floyd has over the
course of his career because Floyd doesn't get hit. That's one one half
of the calculation--his defensive skills are some of the best in
history. He didn't get to be a perenniel pound-for-pound best pick by
everybody everywhere by being "devoid of talent". That's ludicrous. He
won that honor, and others, by putting his gloves on the other guy's
face. That's how it works.
That said, I agree that he's been picking too young/too old boxers since
he unretired in 2009. He's just as wiley and wary and safety-concious
out of the ring (selecting oppononents and markething them as valid) as
he is inside the ring. That's the reason I'm no fan: He ducks, runs and
counters. He does it all famously well, but it's frustrating to watch
and he doesn't win in spectacular fashion.
TWO 12 rounders with Maidana? TWO? What was the second one suppose to
prove? Floyd's last knockout (other than sucker-punching an apologizing
Victor Ortiz) was in 2007! He wins like amateurs do--points only.
Including the 2007 knockout, he's had one other one over 10 years. KO's
aren't everything and they aren't even the main thing. The main things
are courage, passion and determination. Instead, Mayweather has
brilliant defensive skills, and excellent marketing. It's tough to get
excited.
With Manny--it's almost *always* exciting.

The only good boxer Floyd ever fought was Mosley but the Mayweather camp
waited until Shane was too old. Shane in his prime would have Koed Floyd
in 3 rounds or less.

[5***@gmail.com]

Post by Tony

Post by Juan Anonly

Post by Tony
Floyd is a pussy who fights either green boxers or boxers who are over
the hill. Former boxers like Tommy Hearns or Aaron Pryor would have
destroyed him and ended his career before it even started. Floyd is a
guy who just came along in an era devoid of any talent.

Hearns and Pryor took a jillion punches more than Floyd has over the
course of his career because Floyd doesn't get hit. That's one one half
of the calculation--his defensive skills are some of the best in
history. He didn't get to be a perenniel pound-for-pound best pick by
everybody everywhere by being "devoid of talent". That's ludicrous. He
won that honor, and others, by putting his gloves on the other guy's
face. That's how it works.
That said, I agree that he's been picking too young/too old boxers since
he unretired in 2009. He's just as wiley and wary and safety-concious
out of the ring (selecting oppononents and markething them as valid) as
he is inside the ring. That's the reason I'm no fan: He ducks, runs and
counters. He does it all famously well, but it's frustrating to watch
and he doesn't win in spectacular fashion.
TWO 12 rounders with Maidana? TWO? What was the second one suppose to
prove? Floyd's last knockout (other than sucker-punching an apologizing
Victor Ortiz) was in 2007! He wins like amateurs do--points only.
Including the 2007 knockout, he's had one other one over 10 years. KO's
aren't everything and they aren't even the main thing. The main things
are courage, passion and determination. Instead, Mayweather has
brilliant defensive skills, and excellent marketing. It's tough to get
excited.
With Manny--it's almost *always* exciting.

The only good boxer Floyd ever fought was Mosley but the Mayweather camp
waited until Shane was too old. Shane in his prime would have Koed Floyd
in 3 rounds or less.

No he wouldn't. Shane was/is class, but he would still lose to Mayweather.

DCI