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Andy Lee vs Peter Quillin
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Emanuel Berg
2015-04-20 00:20:04 UTC
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Andy Lee seems like a good bloke from the hard-boiled
island. The southpaw boxer-puncher has good spirits,
good chin (and good "recoveration", if that is a word)
- a bit like Juan Manuel Marquez only where JMM throws
combinations, Lee throws jabs.

I have only seen Mr. Lee once before, when he couldn't
keep forward-charging Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. on the
outside and thus was stopped in the later stage of
the fight.

Here is the recent, very entertaining fight with
Peter Quillin.

Without spoiling to much, how Lee recovered from that
early knock-down is very impressing.



Notice how Lee moves his jab hand/arm almost
constantly. This is not nervous energy but a cloak
over his jab. It is to get that millisecond advantage
"is it a punch? is it the ordinary circular movement?"
where the opponent cannot tell which. It also helps
relaxation and rhythm but those are secondary purposes,
I'd say.
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Juan Anonly
2015-04-20 01:24:21 UTC
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Post by Emanuel Berg
Andy Lee seems like a good bloke from the hard-boiled
island. The southpaw boxer-puncher has good spirits,
good chin (and good "recoveration", if that is a word)
It isn't. I think the word you're looking for is "recuperation" or
"recuperative ability".
Post by Emanuel Berg
...- a bit like Juan Manuel Marquez only where JMM throws
combinations, Lee throws jabs.
I assume you mean Junior. If so, JMM throws serial hooks, which I
rarely think of as "combinations" per se.
Post by Emanuel Berg
I have only seen Mr. Lee once before, when he couldn't
keep forward-charging Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. on the
outside and thus was stopped in the later stage of
the fight.
It's also difficult to gauge the ability of a boxer coming in 15 pounds
heavier than at the scales 36 hours or more. I note in the recent
delightful upending of JMM that he refused to get on the scales on the
day of the fight.
Post by Emanuel Berg
Here is the recent, very entertaining fight with
Peter Quillin.
Without spoiling to much, how Lee recovered from that
early knock-down is very impressing.
http://youtu.be/2DFBdzyksCM
Notice how Lee moves his jab hand/arm almost
constantly. This is not nervous energy but a cloak
over his jab. It is to get that millisecond advantage
"is it a punch? is it the ordinary circular movement?"
where the opponent cannot tell which.
You'd have to ask him if you're looking for explicit intent. It can
certainly function as a constant testing for potential advantage, a
feint, and also a utility to mask a soon-to-be combination in which the
right will come whistling in soon enough. Blocking an opponents
vision, or distracting him while pawing his face is the most
fundamental of methodologies in setting up a solid right.
Post by Emanuel Berg
It also helps relaxation and rhythm but those are secondary purposes,
I'd say.
Lulling an opponent to sleep by getting him use to certain non-lethal
motion, before turning it lethal; also an age-old mechanism.
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